GUEST is incorrect on all fronts.

The Palestinians have been trying to get a homeland of their own since before the 1948 war. They have never stopped trying to get their own state. They have been thwarted in their objectives by both Israel as well as Jordan. But it has been their dream and their ambition all along.

To say that the Palestinians could have created a state at any time is simply a lie. Neither Jordan nor Egypt had any intention of letting them do that. But at least Jordan and Egypt didn't run them out of their homes and off their land. And they didn't bulldoze their olive groves. In that respect, the Palestinians did not have quite as much incentive to resist the Jordanians and the Egyptians as they do the Israelis.

CarolC seeks to minimize the number of Israelis killed by Palestinian terrorists. If you take the number Israelis killed since the beginning of the second Intifada as a proportion of the population, it is the equivalent of 11 9/11 attacks or as if 33,000 had been killed that day.

You, GUEST, are seeking to minimize the number of Palestinians killed by Israelis. There have been thousands of Palestinians killed. More than three for every Israeli killed. I don't know the ratio of Palestinians to Israelis overall, but if we use your equation, the number of Palestinians killed by Israelis would be equal to or greater than 33 9/11 attacks, or as if 99,000 or more Palestinians had been killed that day.

Perhaps you seek to minimize these numbers because like Bill H, you do not regard Palestinians as human beings.