yes, greg...a bit..*grin*. Now my pedantic mind will go looking for something other than "ostensive definition": synonyms or explications preferred. But thank you for the examples...I will contemplate them..

"An ostensive definition conveys the meaning of a term by pointing out examples of what is defined by it. This type of definition is often used where the term is difficult to define verbally, either because the words will not be understood (as with children and new speakers of a language) or because of the nature of the term (such as colors or sensations)...Ostensive definition tends to be imprecise, and not as useful when one does not already know the general nature of the term being defined; it assumes the questioner has sufficient knowledge to recognize the type of information being given."