That has to be the thread that I got Snuffy's quote from, but lost patience before I found it, taking the quote from my word files instead. Jim's posting is an earlier version in the thread which I had not saved. To my ears, Snuffy's comes a bit closer to what the Grehans are singing, though both did good work and helped me figure things out. As has been noted many times here, theirs are not the easiest voices in the world to interpret. GOOD THOUGH!