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Thread #68747   Message #1536543
Posted By: Stilly River Sage
06-Aug-05 - 03:15 PM
Thread Name: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
Subject: RE: BS: I Read it in the Newspaper
Monroe sex secrets
By MICHELLE CARUSO link (I don't think it is a durable link)

LOS ANGELES - In private tapes for her psychiatrist, screen goddess Marilyn Monroe never hinted she romanced JFK, but she bemoaned her lack of "courage" to break off an affair with his married brother Bobby, a bombshell report says.

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Monroe also revealed a one-night-fling with actress Joan Crawford and her undying love for her ex Joe DiMaggio, but she griped about the "so-so" sex with former hubby playwright Arthur Miller, according to documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

On the 43rd anniversary of Monroe's death, former L.A. County prosecutor John Miner gave the newspaper never-before-published transcripts of tape recordings the actress reportedly made for Dr. Ralph Greenson shortly before she died.

Greenson reportedly destroyed the actual tapes before his own death, but Miner says he took detailed notes when the psychiatrist played them for him during a probe of Monroe's drug-overdose death in 1962.

Miner, now 86, released the transcripts because he doesn't think the star of "Some Like It Hot" and "The Misfits" took her own life and he believes the therapy tapes prove she was happy and looking forward to the future, the newspaper said. Miner did not return phone calls yesterday.

Far from the desperate woman on the brink of self-destruction often portrayed in media accounts, the 36-year-old Monroe was upbeat, the transcripts show. She credited the shrink with curing her

sexual dysfunction and frankly discussed her husbands, lovers and friends, including DiMaggio, former President John F. Kennedy and Frank Sinatra.

In her own words (she sometimes referred to herself in the third-person), here's what Monroe had to say, according to the transcripts:

On JFK: "Marilyn Monroe is a soldier. Her commander in chief is the greatest and most powerful man in the world. The first duty of a soldier is to obey her commander. He says 'Do this.' You do this. . . . This man is going to change our country."
Despite years of rumors, and her breathy rendition of "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" at his Madison Square Garden bash, Monroe didn't confess to a fling.

On Robert F. Kennedy: "As you see, there is no room in my life for him. I guess I don't have the courage to face up to it and hurt him. I want someone else to tell him it's over. I tried to get the President to do it, but I couldn't reach him."
Some past accounts have claimed Monroe was madly in love with RFK and was badgering him with phone calls right up to the bitter end.

On a one-night fling with Crawford: "Next time I saw Crawford, she wanted another round. I told her straight out I didn't much enjoy doing it with a woman. After I turned her down, she became spiteful."

On baseball great DiMaggio: "Joe D. loves Marilyn Monroe and always will. I love him and I always will. But Joe could not stay married to Marilyn Monroe, the famous film star. Joe has an image in his stubborn Italian head of a traditional Italian wife. . . . Doctor, you know that's not me . . . . Anytime I need him, Joe is there. I couldn't have a better friend." The ex-Yankee slugger sent roses to Monroe's Westwood, Calif., grave for decades after she died.

On Sinatra: "What a wonderful friend he is to me. I love Frank and he loves me. It is not the marrying kind of love. It is better because marriage can't destroy it."

On Miller: "Marrying him was my mistake, not his. He couldn't give me the attention, warmth and affection I need. It's not in his nature. Arthur never credited me with much intelligence. . . . As bed partners we were so-so. He was not that much interested."

On how Dr. Greenson taught her to achieve orgasm: "You said there was an obstacle in my mind that prevented me from having an orgasm . . . . Bless you, doctor. By now I've had lots of orgasms. Not only one, but two and three with a man who takes his time."

Originally published on August 5, 2005