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Thread #83512   Message #1538241
Posted By: sapper82
09-Aug-05 - 04:58 AM
Thread Name: BS: Was Thatcher right?
Subject: RE: BS: Was Thatcher right?
eric the red
If I am a " Thatcher and tory and capitalist apologist" Can I take it that you are an apologist for the brand of Trade Unionism that came so close to pushing this country into collapse in the '70s?
Are you an apologist for the '77/'79 Firemen's strike? Are you an apologist for the Hospital Porters dispute which saw patients being turned away from casualty departments by pickets because they were not ill enough and saw deliveries of heating oil being blocked by the same porters?
Are you an apologist for the street cleaners dispute that saw rubbish piled so high in the streets of Glasgow that it became a public health hazzard?
Or perhaps you are an apologist for the Grave Diggers dispute that saw bodies being stored in deep freeze lorries because they could not be burried?
As a result of those excesses, I went from being a Labour supporter of the late '60s and early '70s to being conservative supporter bvy the mid-'80s and a card carrying member of the Conservative Party by the late '90s.
I have no need to appologise for anyone. What Lady Thatcher did was largely in response to the gross excesses of union power that had built up since WW2.


Richard Bridge;
As you have obviosly not read the text of the Woman's Own interview in which she made that statement, and for which I provided a link in my posting of the 5th of August, I again provide the link here; "There is no such thing as Society" Interview
Please read it. You may also wish to read my comments from the 5th of August.
One of your phrases "it is one of the functions of "society", through the political and fiscal system" sums up exactly why we are now seeing a breakdown in that Society. It is that self same political and fiscal system that has done so much to erode the sense of personal or collective responsibility that acts as a glue to hold our society together.
As Lady Thatcher actually said in that interview, Society is made up of individual men, women and children. How well it works depends on how willing people are to take PERSONAL responsibility for themselves, their families and how willing they are to assist those less fortunate than themselves.