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Thread #83866   Message #1543954
Posted By: Little Hawk
17-Aug-05 - 10:42 AM
Thread Name: BS: Worst War Film
Subject: RE: BS: Worst War Film
Hmmm. This is a tough one. Hmmmmm....

Well, there are so many great candidates! Let's start with:

"The Alamo", starring John Wayne as cinema's most unlikely Davy Crockett ever. This movie is boring, interminable, stupid, and just plain BAD!

Kelly's Heroes - Totally bites.

The Green Berets - I'm sad to say I have never seen it. I avoided it as one would avoid a toxic spill of nuclear waste. I have to assume it's right up there with the worst.

In Harm's Way - A silly movie about fighting the Japanese Navy in the Guadalcanal campaign. It has a lot of shots of patently bogus models of Japanese warships...you can easily see that they are models, not real ships. (they are fairly accurate models, however, and that's something, I guess). The Japanese superbattleship Yamato makes an appearance at the end and blows away the heroic Americans. In truth, the Yamato never made such an appearance in such a battle. It did get to briefly fire on some light carriers and their escorts at Leyte Gulf, however, on a much later occasion, and then ended its career at Okinawa, smothered by hundreds of American carrier aircraft. Anyway, here's an amusing review of this pathetic movie, off the Net:

"Apparently, Pearl Harbor was some sort of victory for the USA. John Wayne was there, so how could it have been otherwise?

There have been other bogus Second World War films before, the infamous "Battle of the Bulge" (1965) for example, but this one really excels. The US Navy characters don't seem to be aware that there's a war on; it's rather like "South Pacific" without the tunes. Or an episode of "The USS Love Boat". Nothing is allowed to interfere with this soap opera's cloying plot.

Wayne gives another of his standard pigeon-toed performances. He acts as though he's appearing in some horse opera, where a ranch or maybe a few acres of sagebrush hang in the balance. Democracy vs. Totalitarianism? You'd never know it from Wayne's jolly old sea captain. Get a message out to Pearl, pilgrim.

The film was directed by Otto Preminger, which explains the wild, swingin' '60's party which provides the film's embarrassing and anachronistic opening. Preminger always prided himself on breaking cinematic taboos, which is why he must have felt compelled to produce the first and only skinny-dipping Peyton Harbor movie. All of that silly "risqué" "adult" nonsense throughout is Otto's doing.

Eventually the film does provide a brief battlewagon engagement, but you'll have enough time to break the Japanese naval code from scratch before you get there.

To paraphrase Burgess Meredith's character, you oughta get a Medal of Honor for sitting through this. "


Regarding "Saving Private Ryan" - Well, I have mixed feelings about this one. Some of the battle scenes are superb. The German tanks and other equipment look like the real thing for a change! Lovely. Some of the character parts are interesting, if rather contrived. One thing that gets on my nerves is this: the Germans in the movie show very little finesse or good judgement, and keep getting themselves killed stupidly. This was not typical of the highly experienced German army in '44. No sir. They were very good at minimizing their own casualties and maximizing those of their opponents. Had it not been for the constant Allied air supremacy, they would have won most of those battles in the West. So in that sense, it's quite unrealistic.

Here's a very fine war movie: Gallipoli.