Dear All,

I am going on my holidays tomorrow and won't be able to visit this thread for nearly two weeks. I am sure that it will look after itself while I am away - I am torn between amazement at seeing how stoic the originator is at continuing to repeat his 'civil request' ad nauseum and begging everyone else to stop posting, just to see how long he will continue talking to himself...!

PLEASE Shambles - clearly, this method of attempting change is not working for you and so, all reasoning would suggest that you try a different method, to see if that works - e.g. ASK MAX! Otherwise, you show all the symptoms of someone who does not learn from experience and just keeps doing the same thing over and over again - there is, of course, no guarantee that the new method will work either.

This is not a democracy - you can make suggestions - even try to persuade someone that you have a valid point of view, but saying the same thing over and over is clearly not working - it is presently wasting your own time and, honestly, making you look a bit, well, foolish.

It is another step to instigate change though - lots of people have valid points of view, on all sorts of topics, but fail to get things changed to their way of thinking - because of all sorts of reasons - economical, present way suits most people, person in charge likes things the way they are - haven't you ever been a member of a club? You must know the way things work.   

As I say, I'm off on my hols....I wonder how many posts this will be up to by the time I get back?