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Thread #83090   Message #1547382
Posted By: Joe Offer
22-Aug-05 - 07:05 PM
Thread Name: In the UK......? (thread title change complaint)
Subject: RE: In the UK......? (thread title change complain
So, Shambles, what was the issue in this thread anyhow? If I recall, you complained because a volunteer renamed a thread from Minister say's jamming OK to Minister say's jamming OK in UK. The appropriate action would have been for you to contact me in a personal message, and then we could have discussed the matter. I would have been glad to rename the thread to UK Minister says jamming is OK, which would have been clear, precise, and grammatically and factually correct.

I certainly can see that from your perspective as a citizen of the UK, the meaning of the title is clear to you (although I do not believe "say's" is correct in the UK, either). From my perspective as an American, I think of a minister as a cleric, and something needs to be added to the term for me to understand. Therefore, I approved the thread title change, to make it understandable to our worldwide readership in a way that does not change the intended meaning of the thread title. Please note that the title and the text of your messages in that particular thread were not changed in any way.

That is the specific issue, and that is my specific answer. I can certainly see how you could disagree with my perspective, but that is my decision, a decision Max authorized me to make. If you disagree with that decision, you have only one remedy - you can appeal to Max.

Have you done that?



If you cannot address the specific issue, I cannot help you. I can't deal with all these other innuendos and accusations, because there's no specificity and no logic. And I can't and won't do anything about things that were said and done three years ago or even three months ago, so don't even bother to bring them up. Stick to the issue at hand.

One other thing - if you want me to change an administrative action, you'll have much better luck if you discuss the matter with me privately. If you make an issue of editorial actions by posting your complaints in a thread, you force me to defend an action instead of allowing me to discuss and negotiate. You can say more-or-less whatever you like in your harangues, but you're not likely to get anything changed that way.

And yes, I suppose that if you badger and aggravate me long enough, I may occasionally respond with an aggravated tone. Heck, I suppose I might slip under all that aggravation once in a while and imply that you might possibly have a screw loose. I don't really think I have a reason to apologize for that. I think you have badgered and aggravated me far too long.


-Joe Offer-