Cryptic--

Did you really mean to set up a series of straw men for us to knock down?

We believe in actual sources, not an absurdly general "nation's newspapers". If you can't cite a specific source for every allegation you make, you'll find your views will be heavily discounted, or even ignored.

Carol has addressed your specious allegations regarding the debt.

I'll just take one of your alleged "Policy" points:    ANWR--the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, not just a collection of letters or perhaps a Turkish potholder, as you might think.

There have been rather lengthy threads on ANWR on Mudcat. If you are proposing ANWR as any kind of a solution to US energy needs --(funny you ignored the obvious need for higher fuel economy standards)--you are sadly deluded. Probably should stop relying on Fox News.

According to the Wall St. Journal 17 March 2005, estimates of oil in the Refuge range from 6 to 16 billion barrels. Even at the high end this will not solve our energy problem. It will take about 10 years for Refuge oil to come fully onstream. Also, according to MSNBC 18 Mar 2005, the US Energy Information Agency, a branch of DOE, hence an upstanding member of the Bushite regime, predicts that in 2020 (when Refuge oil is onstream) 62% of the oil needed by the US will be imported, and that if the HIGH END (my emphasis) estimates of oil from the Refuge are accurate, Refuge oil could reduce that foreign oil dependence to 60%.

That's right, a 2% reduction. That's it. And that's the high end.

For this you want to violate a pristine wilderness. You claim to not be a Bushite. Sounds classic Bushite to me.

And what's more, it's just subterfuge to him anyway--he has included in his 2007 budget money from oil leasing in the Refuge-- source, again the Wall St. Journal. He is doing this in a desperate attempt to preserve his entire tax cut travesty, which you should know, disproportionately benefits the rich.


In general, as I said, you should start consulting other info sources than Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

I don't have time to knock down your other straw men now.

And, yet again, as others have pointed out, you have conveniently forgotten to answer Azizi's question---the crux of the entire thread: What is the noble cause soldiers and others are dying for in Iraq?

We're still patiently waiting for your answer.