"he is an ALL LIBERAL preacher of what he says and does and wants us all to consider him the finale word on anything...especially dealing with GOD!'sooo sad!" tarheel

Tarheel, "LIBERAL" is not a swear word, no matter what you have been told in your church. Liberal, to me, means a spirit that is inclusive in wanting everyone to thrive- whether financially or in education or in health- , wants their country to be responsive to its citizens and respected in the world for reasons other than MIGHT. Perhaps even more important: a LIBERAL wants to be able to have SELF-RESPECT. And if we neglect the poor and the powerless we cannot respect ourselves.

I would go further, Tarheel, and say that if you so misunderstand what Bill Moyers said in that speech - and has said many other times- then in all likelihood you are one of the people he fears and despairs of.