John:

In general, I try to steer clear of calling a kettle black with the pot at my back. No glory in that, and I'm no better than the other guy. But it's been my impression that just as 'W' ain't no conservative by any definition of the word I know, Clinton was no candy store liberal and he and his retinue had a 'sense of place' about the US in the world that I find missing here. And Clinton was fiscally much more responsible, from what I am aware of.

So I see that all that is happening here is a 'stirring of the pot' without an advance of the plot, in the end we will have the same problems, further disasters, and less wherewithall with which to deal with 'em.