I wouldn't really call it a hate forum ... but more like a reflection of what the U.S. has evolved into ... more of a reflection of it's 2 party system ... which in itself has turned into left or right ... right or wrong ... ying or yang. There is a deep rooted problem in the U.S. now ... it's not just the Iraq war and the amount of murdered argued in statistics ... I find this disturbing, that some mother's child a victim of injustice whether in Iraq or inner Philadelphia is argued in some statsitic ... it's appears to me (anyway) that American society is alienating itself from it's human roots and human rationality .... they have blinders on ... desperating seeking an answer from something, while being defensive about any perceptions from outside of their own self sphere that they can't comprehend.

That's sIx's 2 cent's worth on all of this.