No, McG, it ain't no friggin' game fir me... You lopok and see that I have a bout one hour a day to come 'round Mudcat... Some days two, others none... I have marched in 3 major demonstrations against the Iraq invasion...

Ain't no game to me, my vfriend... It's the real deal... I have written letters to my congressmen... I have written letters to newspapers... I have marched... I have stickersd on the back of my car preachin' peace...

I'd put what I have done for peace up against anyone in this joint... My fight goes back to marchin; in civil right's demonstrations when I was a teenager...

Yeah, it is a battle of ideas and I'd like to think that the battles that have been fought for justice and equality that brought about change we battles I've fought here in Mudville have not been fought in vain... You may think that they have been but, hey, if I thought that fir one minute I'd give up... But I don't think that...

Martin Luther King told us we would have to battle every day... He told us that we'd win and few and loose more than we won but that we had to keep pushing forward...

So, McG, while I respect you, I disagree that it isn't about winning anf loosing... It's all about winning... It's about out'framing the well-finaced reactionaries... That is the only way that we have made progress... If we hadn't done it back in the 1850's an atmosphere that slavery was wrong would have never come into vougue...

If we hadn't done it in the 60's, black folks would still have to pay to vote (poll taxes)...

Yeah, 100% of human progress can be traced to progressives "winning" the battle...

Now folks may not like it put that palin... But that's what it is and that is why I batlle it out here in Mudville... Hey, if I can out-frame a Bushite then I've perghaps changed one person's view of thwe world... We can only fight but so many battles and this joint is just another one...

If this rathersimplistic approach makes some of my fellow so-called progressive Catters uncomfy, then tough! Get over it... It is a battle of ideas and we are on the correct (and Godly) side of the war so, I'll keep on fightin'...

Bobert