This thread has nothing to do with all the parties in the World that are named "the Liberal Party". The Liberal Party in Canada, for example, a party that basically serves its rich friends, is the party that knows SUCCESS, not failure, politically speaking. Though they are rightly detested even by many who grit their teeth and vote for them....they have formed the vast majority of Canada's ruling national governments up to this time. That's because their opponents are at least as bad as they are, most of the time, but haven't got nearly as solid a power base to work from. The Liberal Party in Canada is duplicitous, clever...and only pretends to be liberal...kind of like the Democrats, except you can leave "clever" out of the equation. The Conservative Party in Canada is duplicitous, inflexible, money-driven, and pretends to be conservative, while serving its rich friends.

Ho hum.

If I may quote Dylan: "don't follow leaders"

Got that right.

There is no political party of any size out there right now that is worth casting a vote for. At least, none that I know of. Why? They've all been bought. (and by the same people too...in a general sense...I'm sure there are individual exceptions)