Bruce:

I think the dichotomy is just stupid as it is being applied here. You are using the word so loosely that your questions, which are tainted with whinge and an odor of blame, are meaningless. You are trying to project a small number of examples into the character of a whole tribe, and the tribe is misdefined and therefore largely imaginary in the first instance. You're just making a semantic mess and then asking for some sort of insightful opinion into it. Can't be done, pard, sorry. Even if it could, do you really think it is a game worth playing?

There are plenty of nutballs out there on both ends of the spectrum, whatever the real spectrum is, without sounding alarums about fictitious generalities. You keep that up and the boojums will get pissed off and descend on your sorry hide in a black, acid cloud which will ruin your manhood forever and turn you mottled puce.

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