Shambles meets someone who is more than happy to debate and and what does he do? Avoid any exchange of views like the plague.

Shambles - you treat so many of the rest of us with little respect in your responses to our posts. I am surprised you have the gall (no pun intended) to continue. You complain when people make flippant posts; you sidestep honest attempts at debate; if no-one posts you refresh the thread anyway, by repeating something you have already said.   

Following this thread is like watching Big Brother - mildly interesting at first as a piece of people watching, but quickly becomes obvious that it has no real substance and is trdious beyong belief. That is my personal judgement. Debate is not invited.