Thanks rarelamb for taking the trouble to point the case so comprehensively - however due to the subject matter you cannot expect to receive any thanks for opening the eyes of the bulk of the membership. As you have yourself noted, not one single counter arguement, or refutation of fact, has been offered, by your detractors. Of course had CarolC, Bobert, Amos or Don Frith gone through the same exercise on their own pet subjects the bulk of the membership of this forum would be salivating in their praise for such diligence and attention to detail.

"....once great nation" !!!!! in the 1960's and 1970's Geoff the Duck - Who the hell are you trying to kid - The entire country was going to hell in a hand-cart. Had that state of affairs been allowed to continue who then would have have blamed for the misery and poverty to be inflicted on those you seem to care so much for, because, believe it, or not, their plight would have been much, much worse.

If any of the membership attempts to peddle the line that Margaret Thatcher invented/introduced the traits of pursuit of self-interest and greed to this nation, you will only be denying the history of the people of the British Isles from the year dot.

One last thing, would people quoting the "no such thing as society" bit please quote fully what Margaret Thatcher said and the context in which she said it - you won't because it will not advance the point you wish to make, or portray the lady in the light you wish to cast her.