SRS - point taken about spending - I have not seen any sign of budget control. Both sides must think we don't about spending somewhat within our means.

Leftydee - The 12 missles (@ a million bucks each) were not justified afterwards. Maybe a "wag the dog" scenario? Monica was a hot topic (no pun intended) at the time. Sort of an expensive way of getting rid of an Aspirin factory. And Clinton was comvicted of perjury.

Now to the non-intellectual part of this thread. Bobert, do not try do lecture me. And in that vein, I have two words for you; Spell checker. I am not on a high horse as you crassly tried to imply. By staying on subject, a couple of us were having a pretty good conversation on the overall aspects of the WJC and GWB administrations, not on individual items such as BJs and the war.
Speaking of the war, go back to news articles from the late 90s and you can see where WJC was advocating action against Iraq along with the concept of what a "grave danger" Iraq was. See what the New York Times had to say also. The quotes from that time period and the comments from the GWB administration were almost interchangable.

If I need to be told "how the game is played", I will go to Amos, B'dBruce, SRS, Peace, Dianavan (sorry about Cheney, DV) and Leftydee among others. NOT from a blustery, doesn't seem to understand facts and certainly can't come up with any fellow in dire need of spell check. Sorry, don't want to get personal but some of your stuff is difficult to understand at first read and consequently wastes time.

Yes, I am convinced I walk into the "friggin' retard room" and you of all people know who I saw first.

Now, "back on subject", has anyone heard who actually outed Valerie Plame?