And just fir the record, Old Guy, from my vantage point seems that you do more than yer fair share of playin' crybaby...

Sometimes it takes more courage and wisdom not to fight...

In the discipline of martrial arts that I learned the question was asked, "When is it RIGHT to fight" The answer, "Never"... No, while defense is sometimes necessary it is not RIGHT... That's why I learned the concept of "minimum force"...

If the Bush administration had more folks who understand fighting, war and defense, then they would never have attacked Iraq... The folks who made these decisions-- desisions made for political and business (oil) interests-- were not folks who knew much about anything other than politics... None of the inner circle had even fought in a war... Most had never even served in the military and the one who had, didn't fight and went AWOL!!!

This does not make for wise decision making... About the only person who was trying to slow down the push was Colin Powell but even he could not slow down the thrisrt for war by a bunch of folks who knew nuthin' of war...

Yeah, you may think that being anti-war is somehow being a crybaby... You couldn't be more wrong if you lived to be a thousand years old...

But don't just take my word fir it... Google in Massanutten Military Academy (1963 thru 1965) and see how many of my good friends, guys I had played sports with and partied on weekends off, died in Vietnam... Then consider that there were only about 80 of us in each class... You do the math...

Yeah, you wanta call me a crybaby, pal, fine but you don't have a friggin' clue...

Bobert