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Thread #82879   Message #1601399
Posted By: GUEST,Crowbar
10-Nov-05 - 09:31 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is Karl Rove a Big Fat Liar???
Subject: RE: BS: Is Karl Rove a Big Fat Liar???
THE PLAME GAME Analyst says Wilson 'outed' wife in 2002

November 5, 2005

Vallely said, citing CIA colleagues, that in addition to his conversations with Wilson, the ambassador was proud to introduce Plame at cocktail parties and other social events around Washington as his CIA wife.

    "That was pretty common knowledge," he said Friday. "She's been out there on the Washington scene many years."

    If Plame were a covert agent at the time, Vallely said, "he would not have paraded her around as he did."

In fact it looks like Wilson even admitted she wasn't a covert agent years ago:

    Victoria Toensing – who worked on the legislation in her role as chief counsel for the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence – said Plame most likely was not a covert agent when White House aides mentioned her to reporters.

    The federal code says the agent must have operated outside the United States within the previous five years. But Plame gave up her role as a covert agent nine years before the Rove interview, according to New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof.

    Kristof said the CIA brought Plame back to Washington in 1994 because the agency suspected her undercover security had been compromised by turncoat spy Aldrich Ames.

    Wilson's own book, "The Politics of Truth," states he and Plame both returned from overseas assignments in June 1997 and never again were stationed overseas – placing them in Washington at least six years before the 2003 "outing."

    Moreover, asserted Toensing, for the law to be violated, White House aides would have had to intentionally reveal Plame's identity with the knowledge that they were disclosing a covert agent.

Looks like Joe Wilson is the guy who needs to be investigated.

UPDATE :

Turns out Lt. General Tom McInerney, USAF, who also a FOX News analyst, will join Paul Vallely in claiming Joe Wilson consistently mentioned the fact his wife worked at the CIA. Note that the primary legal concern was the supposed leaking of the fact Valeries worked at the CIA. Her role in getting Joe to Niger twice has not been the focus of investigations - yet.

UPDATE:

The list of people who knew about Plame working for the CIA is getting quite large! From the Kerry Campaign to most of NBC News to Victor Davis Hanson….

Amazing.

END UPDATE

Gen Paul Vallely has come forward and claimed Joe Wilson was talking about his CIA wife in the Fox News Green Room - a charge Wilson is denying with threat of legal action.

    "This is slanderous," Wilson wrote. "I never appeared on tv before at least July 2002 and only saw him maybe twice in the green room at FOX.

Well, when was Wilson possibly in the Green Room with Vallely? In reverse chronological order:

January 10th, 2003 (Vallely, Wilson). Wilson was on John Gibson's show this day. Which is why Gibson has similar recollections to General Vallely. Vallely was on Cavuto which airs right before Gibson's show.

November 18, 2002 (Vallely, Wilson). Vallely was scheduled for 1:10, Wilson was to be on after 3:00 PM.

October 1, 2003 (Vallely, Wilson). Wilson was on Fox and Friends in the morning, Vallely on Cavuto. Depending on when Vallely came in to tape his section they could have met up.

September 12, 2002 - they were on the same show at 3:00 PM.

August 20, 2002 (Vallely, Wilson). Wilson was on Greta and Vallely on Cavuto. Depending on when/if things were taped the could have run into each other.

Well, four good opportunities to run into Wilson in the Green Room. BTW, all the guests listed in the same days as these make for potential witnesses. Not to mention all the times Wilson was at Fox and other networks.

MAJOR UPDATE:

I cannot believe how many people are ready to say Joe Wilson himself outed his wife. Now, through a 3rd party recollection, Victor Davis Hanson also recalled Joe Wilson talking about his CIA wife in a Green Room. What a putz he and Fitzgerald both are.