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Thread #86665   Message #1616321
Posted By: *daylia*
29-Nov-05 - 09:50 AM
Thread Name: BS: Gary Glitter
Subject: RE: BS: Gary Glitter
But, dianavan, I would also be interested to know if there is any evidence to say that paedophiles tend to be intelligent. Or perhaps you mean they can be manipulative and cunning, as also associated with psychopathy?

Whether pedophiles are considered "intelligent" or "manipulative and cunning" depends on time and place. For example, in Iran the legal age for marriage, for girls, was raised just recently from 9 to 12 years. In Spain, and in Italy and France too if I'm remembering correctly, the age of consent is still only 12. And in Japan, China and other Asian locales, adults having sex with young adolescents is and always been the norm.

In the Germanic countries, up till approximately a couple hundred years ago, "upper class" 10-13 yr old girls were given in marriage, by their fathers, to men at least a decade or two their senior.   And, following the wedding ceremony, the consummation of those arranged marriages was duly witnessed by the fathers-in-law and assorted male dignitaries.

Today, I suppose traditional "upper class" Germanic weddings would be called rape of a minor, and all involved would be considered pedophiles. I doubt many, if any of them were lacking in mental abilities or seen as "manipulative" or "cunning". Consider, too, that due to better food and medicine in modern times, the average age of menarche has dropped from approx 16 to 12 or even younger. So, generally speaking, a 13-yr old girl in C17 Germany was the physical equivalent of a 10 yr old today.

I've heard that Lewis Carroll was a pedophile, by today's Western standards. And according to some historians, ditto for Pythagoras and Plato and other famous Greek and Roman scholars.

Were any of those people "unintelligent"?