Teribus hefts the ol' goal posts and marches 'em another 20 yards towards the tennis courts...:

I take it therefore that you cannot substantiate what you claim as being fact above then CarolC - Didn't think you could. No need to feel downhearted by it - neither can Ron who actually does believe that GWB or someone in his administration clearly stated that Saddam/Iraq had something to do with 911 attacks.

I'll agree that it's difficult to find anyone in the maladministration making a "clear state[ment]" on anything. But this is just Teribus with his game of "Simon says"; his dip into Clintonesque parsing.

Plenty of quotes have been given by myself, TIA, Davies, and others by the maladministration making definitive links between Saddam and Iraq. (And what do you suppose that link is supposed to do? Paint a picture through outlines and shadows of Saddam's hand on the controls of that 767, perhaps?) But Teribus is great at moving the goal posts and insisting on the Clintonesque parsings of Dubya's speeches in his "Simple Simon" game: Dubya didn't say "Simon says", so it don't count, you're out, ha-ha-ha....

And that's not even mentioning the claims of WoMD, which was the other big lie that Teribus wants you to forget about with his prevarications on this "Dubya didn't say 'Saddam and osama are secret homosexual lovers and Dubya's a bottom to boot" diversion of his. Don't let him muddy the waters. Dubya and company lied repeatedly.

Dubya couldn't stop lying afterwards, even, and invented this fantasy (or hallucination? -- scary...) about Saddam not letting the inspectors in (as I posted in an early article here).

I have still to see either Teribus, BeardedBruce, Geoduck, or any of the RW apologists here acknowledge this very strange and counter-factual statement of Dubya's. Tell me, folks, and give me an honest answer: Why did the Preznit of the United States make the following statement:

The larger point is, and the fundamental question is, did Saddam Hussein have a weapons program? And the answer is, absolutely. And we gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in. And, therefore, after a reasonable request, we decided to remove him from power, along with other nations, so as to make sure he was not a threat to the United States and our friends and allies in the region. I firmly believe the decisions we made will make America more secure and the world more peaceful.

That statement is truly mind-boggling! So, Teribus, what was up with Dubya when he said that??? Don't be shy to offer an opinion..... Is Dubya about prime for a tour of the funny farm? Or is he just the most despicable liar on the face of the planet right now?

Cheers,