Off topic: Guest wrote: "I live in an area where we had a rash of murders of innocent mentally ill people by the police, in the name of "public safety". The outcry was so loud against the actions by the police, that dealing with agitated (and sometimes violent, though not usually) mentally ill suspects is now a mandatory part of police training."

So do I guest. The worst was when five (FIVE) cops standing in a semi-circle emptied their guns into a drunk who was swinging a stick. That story familiar to you?