Arne....about 'earlier'....the point is that IF one approves of the death penality, 30 years is a bit long to wait. IF he had been executed within 2-3 years, it would be far less troubling for many of us..."founder of Crips, convicted multiple murderer, executed"

I think my only real objection is when there is real doubt (i.e., lack of absolute proof)..Williams died claiming innocence, and who really KNOWS?

In the Wichita case (BTK), and in the Green River case (40-50 confirmed deaths) there were confessions, yet no death penality because they used a plea bargain to get details. If ever murderers deserved the ultimate penalty, those were examples.

Like I said earlier, I really am unsure how to deal with the question, except on a case-by-case basis.....but I really don't think we can argue that killing is RIGHT in Iraq, but WRONG in certain criminal cases. (and do NOT doubt, that is what some are arguing)