deli-youre right. Becha Guard would say the Weavers (look at the group he tried to form after the kT). Shane'd prolly say "to get girls". Both those guys were from Hawaii and influenced a lot by slack key like Pahanui's, and Island groups too. Reynold's dad was a navy guy and sang sea chantys. But even Dylan in his book says they influenced HIM. I think I still go with that first album of theirs. OK now you can say I'm talking to myself again. LOL.