>>... I'm just a littyle sick of I.Q. crap anyway... What we have is a major social/educational problem that ain't got one thing to do with intellegence...<<

Contradictory statement. If intelligence isn't important than who cares about this "educational problem" that you never specified? In fact, there can't be an educational problem since intellect doesn't matter. We should even have schools then.

>>Yeah, some kids don't do well in school but if their car won't start they can fix it and others do well in school but don't know how to put air in a tire...<<

I'll agree book learning by itself is largely useless but cars nowadays are highly complex and require special electronic equipment to work on them and you have to have training to learn it. The days of tuning the carburetor yourself are gone because few cars have them anymore. It's all fuel-injection timed with PCMs. If he's tinkering with some jury-rigged hot rod piece of crap, that's exactly what we're talking about--equipment having to be dumbed-down to these people's level. Makes for a less effective system that gives the enemy a better chance at winning.

>>Yeah, makes me think of that old story about how the professor was on his way to teach his upper level philosphy class when one of his wheels fell off the car and the lug nuts were missing. SWell, seems that this happened right in front of the state mental hospital and there was a patient looking thru the chain-link fence... The learned good professor was just scratchin' his head when the mental patient said, "Hey, Mister, if you take one lug nut from each of the other wheels you'll be able to bolt the wheel back on to get you back to town."

"Well", said the learned professor, "thank you, That is so smart that I just have to ask why you're in there..." to which the mental patient said...

..."I may be crazy but I ain't dumb..."<<

This is an old joke and not proof of anything. It's not even anecdotal evidence.

>>Well, this has something to do with this conversation... With failing socail/educational in the US, there's alot of folks that just ain't that "dumb"...<<

Again, a contradictory statement.