Troll:

... as I have stated before on this forum, I have never questioned John Kerrys physical bravery nor would I.

You miss the point, you slimeball. You atacked Kerry for what was deemed not only brave but meritorious conduct. Rather than attack Kerry head-on about your disagreement with him on his Vietnam testimony, you instead engaged in a collateral attack on his Vietnam service.

He was in combat and he didn't run.

From your previous post:

HERO Kerry ran his boat ashore -abandonding his command- and went behind the hut. There was a shot after which he re-appeared and announced that he had finished the enemy.

Not anyone who knows one damn thing about a .50 cal. machine gun knows that a burst to the body means that the recipient is very, very, dead.
HERO Kerry was grandstanding and putting the lives of all under his command at risk.

What's that sound like to you folks in the peanut gallery, eh? Think that ol' Troll here's not only criticising Kerry for his actions but also claiming that Kerry's bravery (based on the ol' Swift Boat Veterans Against The Truth historical "revisionism" [by people who weren't even there]) is in fact "grandstanding" and worse and not in fact "bravery" at all, and is in fact is "abandoning his command"?

Troll: You, sir, are a liar.

Arne, since you don't know me and -apparently- don't know anything about me, let me start by saying that a few years ago, the man who called me a coward in public, would have answered to me physically.

Tell you what: Seeing as you're not into that, let's have it out on this level playing field of words, eh?

Be advised, however, that it is not wise to kick an old dog. He might have one bite left.

Oooooohhhh. Ooooooooohh. Wow, now I'm running skeered.... Well, do your best, and we'll see what happens.

As for his three purple hearts, all evidence, including his own diary and the testimony of the doctor who attended him for what he described as a "bandaid" wound, was that he fired a grenade into the river bank where it hit a rock and he was hit by his own schrapnel.

Lies. But I see that you'ev swallowed the SBVATT horsepuckey hook, line and sinker. Tell me, why do you discount the words of thsoe that actually served with Kerry (not to mention the military brass in their citations)?

As far as me being in the Chairborne Brigade of the 102st Keyboarders, well, like I said before, you don't know me. I served in the US Navy Amphibious Forces between 1963 and 1967.

And right now, you're remaindered to the 101st Fighting Keyboarders of the Chairborne Division. Regardless of previous service, you're spouting from your own chair and disputing and second-guessing what those that were under fire with Kerry have said. Pretty damn chicken-hawk to me.

Apparently the wounds were not severe.

Apparently you don't know WTF you're talking about. He's still carrying a piece of hot metal fromone of them. Had it hit an artery, he might have been killed. Seems you take the SBVATT account as gospel and haven't bothered to read what anyone else has said.

I do know that most of the Vets that I know don't make snap pronouncments about the bravery of others because you never know.

No. Some are a$$h***s and instead take what the SBVATT said in a "snap judgement" and mouth off about someone that undoubtedly has more metal on their chest than you.

Your note that everyone who served with Kerry praised him

No. I said "almost everyone". Sounds like a consensus (or as close to it as you're going to get in a politically charged environment) to me.

Two of my very good friends were part of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and saw John Kerry in action close-up and personal. Their opinion of him, based on his testimony before the Congressional Committee, is even less flattering than mine.

As I said, if you had any balls, you'd take him on about that, rather than slime him for the duty and the courage he did show.

To you, he may walk on water. OK.

No. For me, I don't think he walks on water. But I do believe in fairness and honest discourse. I take particular exception to dishonest sliming of someone. I'd respect you more if you made your actual objections to Kerry the subject of your criticism and refrained from such tactics.

And you'd likewise refrain from -- and denounce -- the slime jobs the Republicans have cooked up against Max Cleland, John Murtha, and John McCain, all in the "service" of political advantage. If you're truly a vet, you'd see that such tactics besmirch all vets, and would rail against such underhanded tactics, rather than adding your own pantload to the mess.

Is that clear?

Cheers,