Shambles:

If you can't distinguish the difference between acknowledging that "There have been plenty of terrible things done BY otanized religion," and "organized religion is to blame for the bad things people do because of it AND IN ITS NAME," then it's hopeless to even try to communicate with you. If you believe that religion is to blame for everything done in its name and doggedly refuse to ackowledge that there are also people who claim that they are doing something in the name of religion, democracy or love who are doing it for totally different reasons and must bear the blame themselves, without holding accountable religion, democracy or love then its a waste of time even trying to talk with you. If you can't admit that, then it's been nice knowin' ya.

Have a nice day.

Jerry