I didn't get the impression that Pied Piper was implying anything of the sort, Jerry, but that rather he was postulating the premise that maybe those people who so fervently believe that a system of rewards and punishments is the only concept that keeps people from harming each other. That's how I took it.

I remember once when my sister and her family were living in the wilds of Canada without electricity and no close neighbors. A 'near' neighbor came to the door and offered my sister the use of her heat-upon-the-top-of-the-stove iron until sis could get her own. My sister marveled: And she wasn't even a Christian!