Is it just me? Or does the recent counterpoint in this thread -- packing the U-haul, heating oil to cook some eggs and planning house move threading a fine harmony against the (perhaps) basso profundo of international war, nuclear threats and conspiracies to slaughter humans strike anyone else as, well, a bit bizarre? Perhaops dissonant?

Totally, Amos. But isn't that how it always is in war?

Now my proposal for the solution is that the western world just surrender now ... give up all it's assets in the middle east, let the law of Islam rule the courts of our nations (sorry girls and connoisseurs of pork and liquor but there has to be some sacrifces made). As to the state of Israel, either they too surrendor, or may God have mercy on them.

Nah... we just need to stop interfering in other countries attempts to get on with their lives. And that's what Israel needs to do as well. As long as we keep putting the bulk of our resources into creating mayhem and instability in other people's countries, the results of those efforts will keep coming back to bite us on the ass.