Isn't that just an off-the-cuff guess?

Hmm=. It's more of a suggestion, Bill. And it's quite testable.

A baby's first breath is the first time a viable (ie living and capable of sustaining that life independantly) and unique human being personally exchanges very physical, observable and testable elements (ie air) with the physical universe.

The proverbial "Breath of Life" is (obviously) just that, in other words. Unless you can think of a time prior to the first breath where a human being directly exchanges (testable) physical matter with the (testable) physical universe. I haven't, as yet!

So, really it's no wonder that traditionally, physical human life is said to begin with the first breath (and not, say, after the cutting of the umbilical cord or at the moment of conception as you suggested). Guess I'll find something else to wonder about!

That is, even **IF** astrology happened to BE accurate, it cannot be supported using the notion that "many clever people for years have worked it out and agree on the basics". Like Tarot, Ouija boards, Crystal Balls and various religions....you just believe and accept because you feel like it.

I don't "believe" a thing about astrology, Bill. I know (not believe, but know) what I do to date through direct first hand personal observation and experience. There's a big difference. Some people use astrology, Tarot, Ouija boards, hypnosis, meditation, prayer etc because --- guess what!! --- they've found these things really do work for them and they enjoy it. I see no problem with this. What does it matter if science can not or will not explain these things? Notta --- except to a scientist on a bad hair day, I suppose.