I think MMario misses the point. I am sure that John Hernandez realizes that Mudcat is not the official NEFFA website. From the way his message appears to me, he is saying that the original postings to this thread contained information that was accessible to everyone, such as who is performing, who isn't, whose performance is opposite whose, and where the best places to stay are, while the later postings are obscure chit-chat, incomprehensible to anyone but insiders. This is not something unique to this thread or even to Mudcat. It is something that goes on throughout Internet bulletin boards, discussion groups, chat rooms, newsgroups, and listservs. It may appear to be on the emotional level of giggly junior high school girls deciding who can and who can't be part of their clique, but it serves a useful function because adults never lose the need to feel that they are part of something exclusive and that all outsiders are a bunch of dweebs. Since adults should not act that way in real life, they do it on-line. It is neither good nor bad. It is just a fact of life. John should grow up and just accept it.