Hmm, just thought I'd check back,and the scent of humbug still hangs over this absurdly long thread.
We really haven't really got much further, have we? Still same the rush towards unreason and the Taliban-like rejection of the Englightenment from the astrology faction. It's almost beyond parody: "Ooh, those bad and wicked scientists; let's all listen to our inner dolphins and realign our chackras to give peace a chance, and meanwhile I've found a quote from someone famous, so it must be true..."
*sigh*