Hmm. Don't really know. I'll ask around. I was in a lecture given by Robin Huw Bowen about NR years ago when he said that he never managed to speak about her without someone coming up to him afterwards and saying they were related to her. Whereupon I went up to him and said that I was related to NR. Which I am, but from a WAY far off! Can't even remember how.

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