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Thread #90535   Message #1718283
Posted By: catspaw49
14-Apr-06 - 03:26 PM
Thread Name: BS: Do you need to be censored?
Subject: RE: BS: Do you need to be censored?
Move on down the line

I got to move on, down the line
What's yours is yours, what's mine is mine
There's nothing left, but the lying
Move on down the line

This train we're riding, has reached the end
And it's no good to pretend
We were walking, hand in hand
Into some Promised Land

So long, I won't forget you
But, I never was 'gonna' let you
Tie me up and settle me down
Nothing's lost, nothing's found

The story ends, it's had it's time
And if you look, I'll think you'll find
The bottle's empty, we drunk it dry
There's no need to cry

This dog is happy, it's had it's day
There's really nothing more to say
No need to cut up, don't howl the moon
We don't sing the same tune

No need to tell me, I'm no good
I just thought, you understood
Just like the wind, needs to blow
I've 'gotta' go


Roger Gall..........http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=12413#162427


Yep, that was Sham back in July of '99. But since only alison and kat responded, The Sham took another shot with his "Warm Goodbye" thread (http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=12450) where he then said:

"I intend to look in from time to time and will hopefully, return if or when I feel that welcome is again there for all."


So Roger........You seem to have changed your mind about things since those days. Since you're so fond of quoting Max's offhand throwaway line about "no rules," don't you think he may have had some other thoughts on the matter since then?   He certainly has added some rules around here. But if you must hold all of us to our previous statements, then start with your own.......I mean you're the one who is so big about leading by example and all. Go for it Pard!!!

LMAO.......I just really do love this joint sometimes. Where else can you find a fucker so tenacious about diddly-shit as Roger? Or what about Joe going bats and trying to appease one and all when it can't be done? I mean like, I like Father Joebro and all but his efforts to keep things in line while trying to be fair are kinda' humorous if you stand back and look at the whole place.

Ya' know it's funny too that for several years back in '98 to say about 2000, we could get a real fight going over "What is Folk?" but it was more of a "fun fight." Today it's a lot easier to get a fight brewing over "What is Censorship." Speaks volumes about what has happened here. The BS was simply a fun adjunct to the music but some didn't like it so it moved below the line. Since then and since 9-11 it seems that threads which were few and far between on contentious issues have become the norm in BS. Now it is time for moderation on a different level and "censorship" is a part of that moderation. Of course what needs to be understood here is that any posting done here or anywhere on the 'net is done as a privilege from the site owner and most offer no right of "free speech."

I am a Mod at one of the larger website message boards. They have 18 active forums and the smallest one is much larger than the 'Cat. There are over 70 Mods and Admins and simple rule which says that if your post is not suitable in any way it can and will be deleted. Threads are under the same guideline and Mods are not asked to explain any thread or post deletion to the member. Only members can post and any complaints go straight to the site administrators. If you complain in another thread or post it gets zapped. I try to give a few warnings but most of the Mods just pull the trigger and that's it. We use "Mod names" different from our membership names and are unknown to the membership. The place runs very smoothly.

The 'Cat is a far different place and I would not like to see it go that route but there are a few things that can be learned from the other sites. Poor Joe could take one lesson for sure and that is not to even try to explain. I have yet to see anyplace he has done that where his answers were suitable to all and generally they just tended to add grist ti "The Great Shambles Cut and Paste Mill."

Anyways........So Rog, what's it to be? Gonna' stick with your words from seven or so years back or are you gonna' hold only Max to his? Or are you going to admit that maybe the times have changed a tad?

I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU but this is the internet and the concept of rights here is a far different one and YES, in this place and this medium and this context, we all sometimes need to censored.

Spaw