Here's the deal Mick.

If it is wrong to say those things. If it is vile and all that. It shouldn't be on this thread. If it was wrong to bring it up in the first place, delete that too and it will be gone.

There is nothing inherently sacred about expressing an opinion. If I believe someone is an asshole and tell them so, they are still an asshole. I may want to say that someone is an Asshole, but I know that when if do then a reasonable moderator would fairly consider that to be an insult. If Martin wants to toss around labels like "antisemite" and halucinate that someone is "a man tormented with guilt" then whether he believs it or not, it is still a verbal attack.

You moderators seem to be setting a double standard here. Martin can say almost anything he wants, until someone, anyone responds, then he can say exactly what he wants. Well that's nuts and it is exactly what NOT to do if you want peace here and if you want Martin to decrease the attacks.

The problem is not Martin Gibson. The problem is those who enable him and feed his mental illness. He has said dozens of things here that go way beyond the bounds of joking, way beyond the bounds of decency. You are either for his racism, mysogeny and outright cruelty or you are against it. If you agree with him at all when he attacks people, he takes it as an endorsement of his "persona" as well he should. Its as simple as that.

As long as Martin is here, people are going to point out who he is and what he has said. Some will do it insultingly, some will do so calmly and clearly as I have just done. You should be telling HIM not to rise to the bait, not everyone else and when he does rise to the bait, you should moderate HIM.

Mick, If you aren't prepared to accept that, then you are in for a long rough ride as a moderator.