Never again, Martin??? I haven't read one popstr of yers that deals with what is happening in the Sudan...

Now to my pal, BB...

You say go to the United Nations... Great. except yer guy had marginalized the UN with his attack on Iraq... Everyone knows that he had allready all but ordered the attack when Colin Powell stepped up and forced crybaby to stop in the middle of ordering the invasion so that the UN might become involved...

So, the UN ain't where this thing can be done and I'm not too sure that Bush has any credibility left with thwe world community... His strongest allie in Blair is about to be run outta the UK so, hmmmm, who's left???

So, realisticly, the next president will havwe to clean up this mess up along with the rest of the messes that the Bush folks will leave...

But, like I have said, the Saudi Porposal is a framework and the Saudi's can be brought back into the equation because they are so dependent on the US for security... I have never said that just because Bush made the wrong decision that the Saudi Propasl was dead in the water... Yeah, probably dead for the next 1000 days but, hey, things will change and here is a viable option...

Now, brucie, go back to pokin' holes in the proposal... It shouldn't be too hard since there alot of stuff on Google by the right winged hawks when it came out... But note that these folks who were doing the pokin' at the time were folks who, like Bush, had made up their minds that they were gonna have their "Shock and Awe", come Hell or high water...

Bobert