I abhor the deaths of all innocents I've made this statement before but I will always stand behind the Nationalist people. You also have double standards, I have never seen you start a thread castigating the loyalists or the army. Even though there have been atleast three catholic teens murdered this year alone by loyalists. Noone ever hears this and certainly not from you. You seem to reserve your right to start negative threads in regard to the Republican side. Keith my point has always been that justice has never been served equally in N. Ireland. I firmly believe that the route problem in N. Ireland has always been the stance taken by the British government. I agree too that off-duty combatants should not be targeted but it happened on all sides to all sides by all sides. If our civil rights had been addressed fairly and equitably I'm firmly convinced that the troubles of the last 40 years would not have happened.