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Thread #72319   Message #1765991
Posted By: Little Hawk
21-Jun-06 - 07:05 PM
Thread Name: BS: Matter and Spirit
Subject: RE: BS: Matter and Spirit
No, my friend, proof is not for "egotistical losers", proof is for matters which CAN be proven.

I am not interested in trying to prove or disprove anything that you and I simply do not have not the wherewithal to prove or disprove. And we don't. Face it.

We (meaning someone who is technically qualified) can prove whether someone's DNA is on a knife blade. We can prove whether a solution contains arsenic. We can prove whose fingerprints are on a doorknob. But we CANNOT prove whether or not Spirit is real...because if it is, the evidence that it is will not be accessible in the physical world...and the physical world is the only available arena of what is normally termed "proof" by people who demand proof.

Aside from direct personal experiences, that is...

But direct personal experiences are no proof to anyone except the one who does experience them. So they are not the kind of proof a sceptic requires.

I never said I had PROOF of the Spirit, 282RA. I never said anyone did. You're the one who appears to think he has proof that there is no Spirit. And you don't. And you never will. Your position is no more defensible that is mine. I say that I think it very probable that Spirit exists. You, I presume, say it doesn't. Where's YOUR proof? ;-) Like me, you don't have any. And you never will.

I'm not trying to convert you into a believer in anything. I don't care what you believe. That's your business. I would just like you to have a measure of respect for beliefs that differ from yours, and leave people alone if they have a belief that differs from yours. That's what religious freedom and every kind of freedom is based upon...respect for differing beliefs.