I quote you:- "of name calling that Trevor does, in speaking about faceless etc. (not entirely true, as many volunteers in the IRA are well know and outspoken)" Total and complete balderdash. Even the Army Council does not make collective statements in their own names. All statements are issued under the pseudonym "P. O'Neill" and directed from Dublin. Nobody knows what P. O'Neill looks like. He doesn't face the TV cameras as other leaders do. The Army Council do not hold Press Conferences, as other parties to the conflict do. Ordinary volunteers are not allowed to make public statements. The golden rule is "He wno knows says nothing, he who speaks out knows nothing." Referring to people as "faceless" is not name-calling in the type of English that I speak. If you take umbrage at the use of "gangsters" in this context, then how else can you describe bank robbers, train robbers, extortioners and protection racketeers ? Faced with international gangsterism on the part of the avuncular Samuel, the admission of guilt was tempered with the immortal words, "They may be ruthless bastards, but they're OUR ruthless bastards. " And that makes it all right? I don't think so. Trevor