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Thread #92618   Message #1780512
Posted By: CarolC
10-Jul-06 - 03:06 PM
Thread Name: BS: Gaza Strip 28/9 June 2006
Subject: RE: BS: Gaza Strip 28/9 June 2006
You mean like the Jews of the Arab nations and the West Bank were ethnically cleansed? Where is their right of return?

We've been through all of this before, beardedbruce, many, many times. Is your memory that selective? Jews are the only people who have any "rights" in the West Bank. And if Jews wanted to live in peace amongst the Palestinians, in the same villages, (not segregated, Jewish-only, settlements, accessed by Jewish-only roads, and defended by a brutal military occupation), and without displacing any Palestinians from their homes, they would be (and are) welcomed by the Palestinians there.

And for the other countries, as I have said many times before, my tax dollars are not supporting the ethnic cleansing of Jews from those places. If you want to start a movement to get the Jews back into those countries, I will be right there with you.

The intent of the division of Transjordan was to provide an Arab homeland and a Jewish Homeland, much like the division of Pakistan and India. NOT perfect, but we are dealing with an attempt by the winning powers of WW I to deal with the Ottoman Empire- the results of which are the borders of present day Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia... It is NOT the fault of Israel that Jordan did not take in the refugees, as Israel did.

Jordan took in many refugees. Half of their population today is of Palestinian origin. But Jordan is a poor country with few resources, and it can only support so many new people. And whether or not Jews have a homeland in the area provided them by the UN is entirely irrelevant to the question of the Israelis taking by force, the land given to the Palestinians by the UN.

WHY do you single out Israel at the ONLY state created by that treaty that has no right to it's land?

We've been through this one many times before, as well, beardedbruce. This is a straw man argument becuase I do not do this at all. Israel is not defending its land. It is taking other peoples' land. If Israel would keep it's activities confined to the area within the 1967 borders (which include quite a bit of land not given to it by the UN, but that was taken by force by Israel), you and I would not be having this discussion.

Why do youinsist that only the Palestinians have the right to life and property?

beardedbruce, this is a lie. You know that I have not ever done this, and that I am not doing this now. I support Israel within the 1967 borders, and I support its right to defend those borders. Any suggestion by you to the contrary is a lie.