There are some clubs where you are made to feel welcome and some where you are not. I started a thread about this myself not too long ago when 2 clubs I entered while on holiday completely ignored me:-( Or perhaps I was so short they didn't see me under the table? ;-)

We all like to think our own clubs are best but hand on heart I can say that whenever I see a new face at mine I will go and speak to them, find out where they are from, if they want to sing etc. etc. It is nothing to do with snobbery or class. It is just manners.

I know a lot of people from London and count them amongst my friends so I will not hopefuly alienate them here? London is a large, bustling, cosmopolitan city. In any such city, including Manchester where I live, you will seldom get the informality of the suberban clubs. I must say the 2 clubs I mentioned earlier were both provincial and I have been made welcome in at least as many London clubs but generaly speaking big cities are not places to make friends.

As to the old/young divide. We have young people at ours and I have seen many young people at others. I don't think snobbery or aloofness is anything to do with it. As th eprevious poster said if a young person likes it they will stay. If not they will go.

Just my tuppence worth.

Cheers

DtG