Bert, you know better than that! Change is inevitable especially when the number of members increases as rapidly as Mudcat has over a relatively short period of time. Shambles has been at it for over seven years. Mudcat started really changing about 3-4 years ago. A lot of the old members got fed up with the constant bullshit that was tolerated and the lack of moderation and either left or quit posting. A FEW of them have started to come back now there is more balance.

Visit any of the various boards Spaw, I, and others have posted as examples of how moderating works well for the whole community. In any of those Shambles would have been zapped, no explanations, no debates, no ifs, ands, or buts, them's the rules. So, for that matter, would have several of the rest of us when we get out of line. It works well and they still have spirited, highly charged debates.

kat