reply to ifor:

You must be one of only a very small number across the world who still believes that Israel is not targetting civilians deliberately.

you mean the civilians among which Hezbollah is hiding when they train their people, paint the walls with their slogans, and fire into Israeli territory indiscriminately with their sophisticated rockets?

From the very beginning Israel has set out to inflict collective punishment on the Lebanese people.

Uh, what 'beginning' are we talking about, the beginning where Hezbollah crossed from Lebanese into Israeli territory to kill and kidnap Israelis?

Early on it attacked the suburbs of south Beirut, car convoys full of refugees, roads and bridges, power stations and petrol stations , schools and so much more.

Early on Hezbollah fired hundreds of rockets into the city of Haifa, into Nazareth, and never stopped saying it was going to fire more and better rockets.

Hundreds of innocent people have been killed and hundreds more have been maimed.Tens of thousands have been terrorised by the Israeli military.

Much of the damage has been done to Hezbollah held territory. Either the Lebanese government and army could not or would not control the territory and restrict the aggressive planning, training, and activities of the terror group Hezbollah. Oh, and when you live in Northern Israel and are aware of hundreds of rockets coming your way, you are terrorized.

700000 have become refugees in their own land.

Then Hezbollah determined that their own land became a training ground for terrorism and aggression across the border into Israel.

The Israeli military lied about Qana ..where it committed mass murder slaughtering women and children while they slept.

The Israeli military did not lie, but you and others on this thread were overjoyed to pounce on the deaths of these people to make a case.

They claimed that it was a place where Hizbollah fired rockets from but all the eye witnesses including western film crews said there was absolutely no sign of any military equipment there apart from the shards of the American made bomb that the Israelis used to destroy the building.

I believe there are photographs that put your contention in dispute. The firing upon Israel from areas with many civilians in them is a tactic used by terrorists for generations. Check out the flick "The Battle Of Algiers" which was put together with the help of the terrorists themselves. They used every avenue including religious garb of the women, civilian targets, civilian bombers, and every bit of publicity they could generate. So does Hezbollah and Hamas.

The Israelis delivered the "Shock And Awe" tactics that the US used in Iraq and showed the same lack of concern about the lives of the civilians in the freefire zone.

If that were true, there would be tens of thousands of civilian deaths, not scores.

It is far more likely that the Israelis want to clear the south of Lebanon up to the Litani river which has always been one of the Israeli strategic goals for its northern border.

It is very likely the Israelis want to eliminate the firing of enemy rockets into their territory.

The actions of the Israeli military and its political leadership have been widely condemned across the world.It has attacked civilians with the most powerful of weapons in a totally indiscriminate way. At least half of its victims have been children.

It is unfortunate that you and your co-GUESTs take such joy in that. Bombs are clumsy discriminaters, as are rockets.


Of course the Israeli should face an international war tribunal to answer for their crimes....but I am not holding my breath.Two decades ago the USA was found guilty in an International Court of mining a port in Nicaragua...but totally ignored the findings of the Court.

And in your courts Hezbollah would receive a series of medals for bringing on this war which Israel did not want nor start. And your comment on Nicaragua has nothing to do with this thread.

But I don't mind if you hold your breath!