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Thread #93592   Message #1803126
Posted By: Little Hawk
06-Aug-06 - 10:05 PM
Thread Name: BS: An interesting viewpoint on Lebanon
Subject: RE: BS: An interesting viewpoint on Lebanon
I respectfully disagree, gents. The pyschology is very, very similar to that of the Nazis. The fact that the Israelis have not yet equalled the degree of physical crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis does not change the psychological underpinnings one iota. I'm not comparing the degree of the act involved, I'm comparing the psychological assumptions of victimhood and "master race/chosen people" that lie behind the policy, and I find them very similar. I also find the military doctrine very similar, as regards general tactical approach to campaigning.

And yes, 6, I DID indicate in my post that I think the most fanatical opponents OF Israel (which would include Hezbollah) are also adopting the same Nazi-like cult of "victimhood" and are abusing it in a similar fashion, using it to justify their violence upon Israelis...only they're not well armed enough to do the classic blitzkrieg warfare like the Israelis do it.


You know, Hitler was under the funny impression that the German people had been victimized horribly after the First World War. (well, actually, there was some reason for him to feel that way...but he exaggerated it out considerably of context...and he blamed the wrong people for it! Meaning, he blamed Jews and Communists, mostly.) He succeeded in convincing millions of Germans that they were victims...and that they would NEVER AGAIN be victims under his rule. He promised to restore the strength, diginty, and pride of the nation.

You tell me how that is psychologically all that different from the motivations that were driving Jews after WWII and have been driving them since? Same basic deal. You have a people in great trauma and distress who have taken terrible losses. You have a huge sense of collective grievance and persecution. You have a people utterly determined to NEVER AGAIN be weak in the face of an outer threat, and bent on securing military supremacy through an elite war machine second to none.

The reason you can't bear the thought of that comparison is...you don't want to believe that Jews could make the same terrible mistake the Germans did...and fall into the same darkness of intent.

Well, believe it. It's a tough pill to swallow, I know. Jews would have to step outside their accustomed group consciousness to do it. Most people are barely capable of stepping outside their group consciousness. In fact, they won't even consider doing so. They'll usually die first, rather than be that objective.