quote..And poverty. Lets not forget that poor families have to fill up on stodge and fattening things because they simply can't afford to do anything else. It's cheaper for a mum to put out a bread based meal than a salad after all.

I think there is a lot in the above quoted .I think your diet/eating habits as a child sets you up for life my woman and i are bringing up two kids along with our own kids their diet was all fast food mcdonalds mainly from weaning age as soon as they could eat solids thats what they got shoved especially the youngest,parents were and are junkies.The sugar shit in mcdonalds food more so at that time than now alterd their brain chemistry we have been told, ie the pleasure reward thing.We both thought this was absolute nonsense but four years down the line we are convinced this is true now,it has been an absolute nightmare to get the youngest to eat a balanced diet and he is still addicted to sweets and sugar shite.To get him to eat vegatables or anything that is not laden with artificial sugars has been an absolute battle that still we havent fully adressed with him he would starve himself if we did not relent to some extent,to get the necessary vitamins and minerals he needs has to be done by stealth.With his older brother it has been more successful because he is old enough to grasp what the consequences are to not eating a healthier diet,although it has still been a battle of wills and to his credit he has fought it because he is a very intelligent little boy.They were addicts no other way to describe it and have to go through withdrawls the youngest as i said is still to some extent addicted.Its been a nightmare.