Reading this list of threads has given me my first real insight into why we still have problems in the North! It has been said that everyone involved is going to have to forget the past if we are to go forward - there clearly have been atrocious acts committed by both sides. In ancient times whilst msirule was rampant in Ireland the same class of people were also making life just as miserable for the poor of England and Scotland. I don't see any more victimisation of the Irish than was going on in England. That this was a tough period of history and its to late to change it. There is a perception that the reason neither side is in a hurry to give up its weapons is that those weapons are earning some people a living through protection rackets and the like - any comment? Lastly the definition of an angel is that it has no memory and therefore doesn't have to forgive because it can't remember who did the wrong or that there was a wrong. We need some brave people to come forward in the North and remind both sides that nearly everyone who has an interest in the issue wants peace and that they will be respected for their courage when (both sides) decommission. I wish them all well.