Ella Tall I think the folk scene as represented by clubs and writers in the 60's was liberal and political, socially concerned, active and radical. The scene today as represented by the artists you name (and I am re-acting to their names before people come on posting others)is conservative and non-political, concerned with personal issues and relationships, non-active and certainly not radical. It has no fire in its belly but it does have a degree and it can play and sing very well. it also has its business plan and is proving successful with a generation that feels itself marginalised and not interested in trying to achieve what the 60's generation failed to achieve politically and socially. There are many who post on here who will be offended by this analysis but I was around then and I'm around now and I can see and hear the difference.