See what happens when I turn my back for a few moments??? You all just go ALL OVER THE PLACE. I can't begin to repond to all the specious, ludicrous, asinine, self-serving, illogical, propagandistic, dopey, dumb, deceitful, duplicitous remarks: And that just Guest ifor!! For a lot of you I recommend lessons in Arabic because whether its Hezbolla, Hamas, Al Qaeda or some other group...! LH, remember Christianity. It was 12, then 24, then 5000 +, then back to 12 then 3,2,1 then NONE, then 1, then 2,4, 12, 120, 500, 5000, and away it went, millions! ifor, are you intentionally ignoring the history of the Jews and the Diaspora? The fact that Hadrian created "Palestine" when he murderously and forcefully evicted the Jews from THEIR homeland??

Guest DB is not behaving as a very nice guest. Your remark demonstrates clear anti-semitism and an absysmal comprehension of Christianity. You parrot Hitler's utterly fallacious contention that it was the Jews who were the "Christ-killers".

Here's a little different take on the whole affair and I apologize before hand: I just skimmed the enteries since my last post to this thread so someone may have suggested this already. Israel in the past has always taken immediate and necessary steps to eliminated those who attack her regardless of world opinion. The current regime, however reflects the more liberal Jews and they have taken the weak-willed, namby-pamby George Bush, et al ( et al being every US President back to the post-atomic bomb Truman) approach of stopping short of victory. This means just checking your enemy and then allowing him to go free. In WWII the US under MacArthur in the Pacific theater, DEFEATED Japan and forced an unconditional surender. This meant that Japan faced utter, total annihilation if they didn't cede to OUR terms. They did and we were magnanimous. Their country, ours and the world benefited from our victory. Unfortunately in Europe we stopped short (Eisenhauer, the first RINO) and Eastern Europe suffered and the Western World was dragged into the Cold War and all the evils THAT spawned. Ever since, all "wars", police actions and conflicts have solved NOTHING. They have left enemies and hatreds, old and new to foment and fester and so for that we are a weaker power by half at least and the world is a powderkeg. I don't LIKE war. I hate it but by not concluding a war we or, as in this case, Israel, still has the initial problem PLUS added animosity from those who were undecided, who suffered collateral damage, death and destruction. Believe me Hezbolla would not have hesitated had they really had the advatage the claimed after the Israeli action. They would have told the World that black was white and kept right on killing and destroying were they able or had any inkling that victory could have been theirs. I have to admire them for that. They know what they are about.

Back in the late sixties and early seventies the Oakland Raiders had quite a (an American) football team. They played their hearts out every minute and the last two minutes of a Raiders game was a delight. But as their successes mounted and they began to dominate earlier in the game they adopted something that was coming into vogue called the "Prevent Defense" where you'd get an advantage, a lead and then sit on- play tepid, defensive football- and hope you could last it out to the final clock. No more desparation football, no more razzle-dazzle, no more George Blanda and Daryl Lamonica and ultimately, no more wins. Not very exciting football ( I know, Ken Stabler, etc. but I'm trying to make a point here, OK?). Well maybe I shouldn't have picked a spectator sport for an analogy. War is no "sport" and the outcome is infinitely more serious. Stopping half way or using half-hearted measures serve no one but an enemy in waiting.