I had one about twenty years ago -- and Tom (Curmudgeon) used to grow them (not the best hobby in the world). I lucked out -- major discomfort but more pressure than pain. The worst part was a octor who really wanted to take out my gall bladder instead. I could see the dollar signs in his eyes. Finally Tom's urologist came in and pointed out the kidney stone on the (what? x-ray? ultrasound? I had EVERYTHING), went in the next morning and popped it out. Gave me the "fair fat and forty" explanation. I know other women who have had them and have said it the pain makes the pain of childbirth seem almost non-existant.

My mother had one -- also when she was about 40. My father also used to grow them on a regular basis.

There are several different types of kidney stones as well as causes, but since Tom started taking garlic supplements (close to 20 years ago), he has only had a couple fairly minor episodes.

He can tell you more.

Linn